March 19, 2005
I probably won't be posting untill Monday after our return to the Hoosier state.
In the meantime, check out the blogroll and support the 'sphere....
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March 16, 2005
One e-mailer told me that "surely I couldn't argue with keeping tabs on who owns guns, for the public safety". And that the (GFW'S) "people that try to put into effect gun registration/licensing are only making common sense the law".
Well, Yes, I CAN argue with that false premise. Every major gun control group has only ONE goal in mind; nothing less than the total banning of ANY private firearms. They know that they don't have the public support for a total ban right now, so they are working towardes their goal with an incremental set of laws, licenses, and anti-gun propaganda.
Don't believe me? Well read these meeting notes from a Handgun Control Inc. planning meeting on December 17,1993.
This was their agenda for regulations they thought could be enacted in 1994:
WHAT IS PENDING NOW AND CAN BE LAW IN 1994
* Ban of all clips holding over 6 bullets.
* Ban on all semiautos which can fire more than 6 bullets without reloading.
* Ban of possession of parts to convert arms into miliary configuration.
* Ban on all pump shotguns capable of being converted to more than 5 shots without reloading.
* Banning of all machine guns, destructive devices, short shotguns/rifles and assault weapons.
* Banning of Saturday Night Specials.
* Banning of Non-Sporting Ammunition
* Arsenal licensing (for possession of multiple guns and large amounts of ammunition)
* Elimination of the Department of Civil Marksmanship.
* Ban on possession of a firearm within a home located within 1000 feet of a schoolyard.
* Ban on all realistic replicas/toy guns or non-firearms capable of being rendered realistic.
* The right of the victim of gun violence to sue manufacturers and dealers to be affirmed and perhaps, aided with money from government programs.
* Taxes on ammo, Dealers licenses & guns to offset the medical costs to society.
* The eventual ban on all semiautomatics (regardless of when made or caliber).
This was #16 on their long term goal agenda:
16. EVENTUAL BAN OF HANDGUN POSSESSION This may be closer to reality than many of us think. Handguns are becoming increasingly unpopular and we think that within five years we can enact a total ban on possession at the federal level.
Do you honestly think that they have eased up their position in the intervening years? If you do, please pass the fairy dust, cause I would like my world to be all rosy light too.
If you want to keep one of the basic rights that this country was founded on, you'd better educate yourself and join us in the fight. Even if you don't care to exercise your 2nd. Amendment rights personally; if that right is overturned, which one will be next? Still think I'm a "Chicken Little"?
Well this is part of their long-range lobbying talking points:
Legal Point 3: Suing the makers of toy-replica guns, toy weapons and violent entertainment: One of the purveyors of violence to society, companies which profit from violence would eventually be identified and made legally responsible for the violent acts inspired by their products. A study would have to be created to link these companies to those actions taken as a result of their products. Threat of legal action would convince many manufacturers and distributors that other nonviolence-related recreational materials and toys, would make them fiscally accountable for the cost to society incurred as a result of their merchandise. Items could include: violent video games, television shows, movies, videotapes, water guns, super soakers, electronic noise guns, replica guns, toy weapons like swords, batons, martial arts items. Tort law as we know it may not have to undergo a change in order to facilitate these actions. As many people know, it is not necessary to actually win in order to affect change, since the constant threat of legal action will induce change in the way people do business. People all know that the real fiscal effect of repeated legal actions can bankrupt a peddler of violence just as well as winning a large settlement. Any additional ideas or proposals should be directed to our Washington D.C. office for collation, investigation and discussion.
Take note of the fact that they know that they don't even have to win any legal cases to make their agenda fact....Just how many times can even a large toy company such as Mattel undergo the legal costs of defending in Federal lawsuits before they decide that the cost is too high to sustain and stay in business making any toy deemed by these Facists as "unsuitable"?
Hat tip to Kim du Toit for the link.
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length looking for a seat, but the only seat left was taken by a
well-dressed, middle-aged, French woman's poodle.
The war-weary Marine asked, "Ma'am, may I have that seat?"
The French woman just sniffed and said to no one in particular,
"Americans are so rude. My little Fifi is using that seat."
The Marine walked the entire train again, but the only seat left was
under that dog.
"Please, ma'am. May I sit down? I'm very tired."
She snorted, "Not only are you Americans rude, you are also arrogant!"
This time the Marine didn't say a word, he just picked up the little
dog, tossed it out the train window, and sat down.
The woman shrieked, "Someone must defend my honor! Put this American in
his place!"
An English gentleman sitting nearby spoke up, "Sir, you Americans often
seem to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You hold the fork in
the wrong hand. You drive your autos on the wrong side of the road.
And now, sir, you've thrown the wrong bitch out the window.
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She's sitting at the table with her gourmet coffee.
Her son is on the cover of the Wheaties box.
Her daughter is on the cover of Business Week.
Her boyfriend is on the cover of Playgirl.
And her husband is on the back of the milk carton.
MARRIAGE SEMINAR
While attending a Marriage Seminar dealing with
communication, Tom and his wife Grace listened to the
instructor, "It is essential that husbands and wives know
the things that are important to each other."
He addressed the man,
"Can you describe your wife's favorite flower?"
Tom leaned over, touched his wife's arm gently and
whispered, "It's Pillsbury, isn't it?
The rest of the story gets rather ugly, so I'll stop right here.
CIGARETTES AND TAMPONS
A man walks into a pharmacy and wanders up and down
the aisles. The sales girl notices him and asks him if she can help him.
He answers that he is looking for a box of
tampons for his wife. She directs him down the correct
aisle. A few minutes later, he deposits a huge bag of
cotton balls and a ball of string on the counter.
She says, confused, "Sir, I thought you were looking for
some tampons for your wife?
He answers, " You see, it's like this, yesterday, I sent
my wife to the store to get me a carton of cigarettes,
and she came back with a tin of tobacco and some rolling
papers; cause it's sooo-ooo--oo-ooo much cheaper.
So, I figure if I have to roll my own . so does she.
( I figure this guy is the one on the milk carton! )
WIFE VS. HUSBAND
A couple drove down a country road for several miles,
not saying a word. An earlier discussion had led to an
argument and neither of them wanted to concede their
position. As they passed a barnyard of mules, goats,
and pigs, the husband asked sarcastically,
"Relatives of yours?"
"Yep," the wife replied, "in-laws."
UNDERSTANDING WOMEN
(A MAN'S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I'm not going to understand women.
I'll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax,
pour it onto your upper thigh,
rip the hair out by the root,
and still be afraid of a spider.
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This story is the reason why.
The FBI managed to stop this plan to import deadly weapons into the US. What about the other plots that are out there? It's often been quoted that "the terrorists only have to succeed once, or we can only fail once" for an incident on the scale of 9/11 to occur again.
I give the FBI kudos for stopping them....THIS TIME. With borders that are leaking like a sieve, it's a testament to their ability that we haven't had another major incident as of this time.
We the people need to do our part and let the Administration know that we will no longer tolerate their seemingly insane border policies. The politicians are afraid of the PC screamers, we need to let them know that we don't agree with the screamers and we demand that our borders be made secure to the best of our ablity with a free society.
There will be an incident, sooner rather than later, it's just the law of averages that the terrorists will succeed, and with the strictures inhereant in a free society, our borders will never be totally leak proof without losing that freedom we hold dear, but that doesn't mean that we throw up our hands and just say Que sera sera.
There are measures that can be taken that will heighten our security considerably without infringing on our freedom, all it takes is the political will to employ them.
We can no longer equate stopping open intrusion of our borders with racism as the PC screamers would have it. It's not, it's self defense.
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In my life, I thought I had a handle on the meaning of the word "service."
"The act of doing things for other people."
Then I heard the terms:
Internal Revenue Service
Postal Service
Telephone Service
Civil Service
Selective Service
City/County Public Service
Customer Service
Service Stations
I became confused about the word "service." This is not what I thought "service" meant.
Then today, I overheard two farmers talking and one of them mentioned that he was having a bull over to "service" a few of his cows.
SHAZAM! It suddenly all came into clear perspective.
Now I understand what all those "service" agencies are doing to us.
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Where it has been enacted, it is a program that has cost upwards of $16 Million dollars, without a SINGLE crime having been solved. The technology doesn't work, can be easily fooled, and is a massive drain on scarce law enforcement resources. Let's just hope the politicians have the sense to stop throwing money down a rathole.
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March 14, 2005
A short time later, another old woman comes forward, and claims that she was just molested. The driver thought he had a bus load of old wackos, but who would be molesting those old ladies? About 10 minutes later, a third old lady comes up and says that she'd been molested too. The bus driver decides that he'd had enough, and pulls into the first rest area. When he turns the lights on and stands up, he sees an old man on his hands and knees crawling in the aisles. "Hey gramps, what are you doing down there?" says the bus driver..
"I lost my toupee. I thought I found it three times, but every time I grab it, it runs away..."
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From the province where drunk driving is considered a sport, comes this true story.
Recently a routine police patrol parked outside a Lethbridge, Alberta bar. After last call the officer noticed a man leaving the bar so intoxicated that he could barely walk. The man stumbled around the street for a few minutes, with the officer quietly observing. After what seemed an eternity and trying his keys on five vehicles, the man managed to find his car which he fell into. He was there for a few minutes as a number of other patrons left the bar and drove off.
Finally he started the car, switched the wipers on and off (it was a fine dry night) flicked the blinkers on, then off, honked the horn and then switched on the lights. He moved the vehicle forward a few inches, reversed a little and then remained still for a few more minutes as more vehicles left.
At last he pulled out of the parking lot and started to drive slowly down the road. The police officer, having patiently waited all this time, now started up the patrol car, put on the flashing lights, promptly pulled the man over and carried out a breathalyzer test.
To his amazement the breathalyzer indicated no evidence of the man having consumed any alcohol at all! Dumbfounded, the officer said, "I'll have to ask you to accompany me to the police station. This breathalyzer equipment must be broken." "I doubt it", said the truly proud Canadian,
"Tonight I'm the Designated Decoy."
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A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly speak. After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done. The monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. If I start to get nervous, I take a sip."
So the next Sunday he took the monsignor's advice. At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm. Upon return to his office after mass, he found the following note on his door:
1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J.C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy, Junior, and the Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey,
don't say he was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the Big T!
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take this and eat it, for it is my body", he did not say, "Eat me."
12. The Virgin Mary is not referred to as the, "Mary with the Cherry".
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: "Rub-A-dub-dub, thanks for the grub, yeah God". and finally...
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy-pulling contest at St.Peter's, not a peter-pulling contest at St. Taffy's.
Blatently stolen borrowed from Your Moosey Fate
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March 12, 2005
Now we have a story about a man who ADMITS to two murders; DNA evidence found at the scene of one of the murders ties him to the murder. Prosecutors have testimony that the defendant admited commiting the murders.
He has been in jail for 16 months awaiting trial for the murders, and today, he's a free man. Why? Because the judge in the case ruled that the DNA evidence was "damning to the defendant", and might cause a jury to "unfairly" convict him?!?! A court source said: "The evidence would be too prejudicial for the jury to hear, they would naturaly assume from some of the evidence, that he was guilty. Um....isn't that the reason for evidence? Any evidence that shows guilt will naturaly bias the jury into believeing the defendant is guilty, if it didn't, it wouldn't be evidence, would it?
Just WHAT are they drinking/smoking/ingesting in Oz that leads to such Idiotarian behaviour?!?
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One owner had over $3,000 worth of weapons confiscated, along with a $300. fine and $190. in court costs assessed.
His crime? The key to his gun safe was found on his key rack, and the safe was easily visible in his bedroom.
The GFW's are always saying that registration is just a safety measure to ensure that firearms are traceble and only owned by those legally entitled to do so, and that there would never be a time that confiscation of legal weapons would ever occur. Funny, thats what the Australian government told their gun owners too..and now thousands of firearms owners in Australia have found out the truth of that lie.
Forgetting the fact that LEGAL owners commit an extremly tiny fraction of gun related offences, which makes the tracebility argument moot, the second part of the reasoning is even more specious. Criminals will NEVER register anyway, thats why they are called criminals. The ONLY practical use of registration is for the convenience of the police when it's been decided that it's politically feasable to conduct a confiscation of said firearms (for the public safety, of course).
I will state for the record here that I don't own any weapons, and should they come to my home to confiscate the weapons I don't own, they had best be wearing the best body armor availible. I will turn my weapons/ammunition over....one bullet at a time.
Radical? If you call standing up for your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms radical, I guess it is.
Let them take the weapons and ammunition peacefully and fight them in court? IF it comes to the point that they do a house search to take weapons just because I am a registered firearms owner, it will be too late to take that course of action, and this will no longer be the country I know and love.
That is why I believe that any registration schemes must be fought from ever being enacted. Registration is only the first step in an incremental program to confiscate. The two may be separated by a period of years, or even decades, but as surely as the sun rises in the east, one will inevitably follow the other.
Responsible firearms owners must stay alert and fight any registration program from ever beginning. If they don't, sooner or later, they will no longer BE firearms owners.
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The official did the right thing and didn't accept the bribe, and reported it to the Volker Commission. One does have to wonder though....how many of the Inspectors were offered bribe money, and did any accept.
And of course, the main question, WHY would Saddam have to bribe anyone IF he didn't have something to hide? I am more and more anxious to see if just maybe the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon just may be hiding some secrets that the world should know about..... Those truck convoys into Lebanon from Iraq prior to the invasion were carrying SOMETHING after all....and somehow, I just can't believe it was surplus foodstuffs for the beleagered Syrians occupying Lebanon.
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exhibits they stopped at was the breeding bulls.
They went up to the first pen and there was a sign
attached that said: "This bull mated 50 times last year."
The wife playfully nudged her husband in the ribs
and said: "He mated 50 times last year."
They walked to the second pen which had a sign
attached that said: "This bull mated 120 times last year. "
The wife gave her husband a healthy jab and said:
"That's more than twice a week! You could learn a lot from him."
They walked to the third pen and it had a sign
attached that said, in capital letters: "This bull mated 365 times last year."
The wife, so excited that her elbow nearly broke her
husband's ribs, said: "That's once a day. You could
REALLY learn something from this one."
The husband looked at her and said: "Go over and ask him if it was with the same cow."
NOTE: The husband's condition has been upgraded
from critical to stable, and he should eventually make
a full recovery...
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March 11, 2005
Having said that, E-bay has gone overboard in the other direction in their effort to protect themselves to the point of absurdity. and in a classic case of demonstrating absurdity by being absurd, an E-bay seller in Australia has put up this "auction". And you don't see the humor in it, I truly feel sorry for you.
He also put up another little visual to further make his point:

The text for the auction will give you a good belly laugh too.
E-bay really does need to lighten up on the PC/GFW bit a little bit. I don't think that they need to sell weapons, but to disallow even the slightest referance to them to pull an aution as breaking the rules is, to put it mildly, ludicrous.
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We have often had some rather heated discussions about Unions in general over the years...well more like knock-down drag-out fights, but we have always managed to agree to disagree in the end and get back to the all important beer hoisting exercizes we were engaged in.
I sincerely believe that the Unions have become what they were created to fight...a managment structure that has it's own interests, not the workers, at heart.
I believe that this action by the AFL-CIO proves my point, and you can be sure that I'll be filing the information away for the next time the Beer Swilling Lushes Debating Society gets together.
Take note of the reason WHY the AFL-CIO has decided to release a fourth of their wage slaves skilled office technicians. Ask yourself, what would the Union have done to any company that would have released that percentage of workers due to TRUE budgetary need?
No, the Union has decided that it was going to cut back on their member services/recruitment activities and utilyze the money to go into the National Legislative business instead. Their main beef being the Presidents proposed partial privatization of Social Security...After all, should the sheeple get a taste of economic independence, they may just start wondering if the Union dues they have been paying are really worth the services they have been getting.
After all, membership has fallen drastically in recent years...Union demands having closed down the businesses where their members worked. Yes, the Union got their members the highest wage/benefits packages that could be extorted from Management, regardless of the economic realities of supply and demand.
It didn't matter that those packages only helped the workers for as long as it took for the company to move operations offshore to retain economic viability, after all, the Union could use that movement as propaganda to prove just how EVIL management was in convincing their other members of other companies to fight for THEIR new packages in the next negotiation, with the Union skimming the cream off the top in dues and fees.
Of course in the end, the Unions are killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, but the officials at the top have already ensured their own nests have been feathered and made safe from economic stress, so why should they care?
The Union plans to increase it's political action funding to $45 million from it's current rate of $32M and cut it's organizing efforts by $15 million to pay for it.
Take a look at that sentence and see if you saw the same disconnect I did.....
A. "organizing efforts" is union speak for getting new members to grow the Union and providing services to them. In other words, the Union has become an unelected political Party, instead of a protection group to it's members.
B. The Union is making a $15 Million dollar cut to fund a $13 Million dollar effort...seems they believe that their average dues paying member won't notice the disparity, and/or they may just assume that the sheeple won't care if they did notice, who are THEY to question the ones on high?.... my question would be just how many of the top officials are in on the split of that $2 million difference?
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March 10, 2005
Pictures From Iraq That Are Too Shocking & Graphic for The Mainstream Media
(And just don't fit their "quagmire" meme)
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Well read here and see what has resulted from all that diplomacy and ask yourself if thats really the way we should go. The Dutch Reporter has his comments on the story and how it's playing out in the Netherlands also.
The Moonbats sound reasonable in their rhetoric, who wouldn't wish to utilize diplomacy over tough, nonnegotiatable stances, or in the most dire case,force of arms?
The one thing that the Moonbats have forgotten is, that for diplomacy to be effective, BOTH parties have to negotiate in good faith and stick with the terms that are negotiated. The Radical islamists, hell, even the "moderate" Islamists, have openly stated time and again that negotiation is merely a tool for furthur progress towards their ultimate goal of a total Muslim world.
In the West, most people look on religion as a part of life, if they even suscribe to a religion at all. Secularism is the norm for political life.
The heart of Islamic teaching is that religion is not just a part of life, but life is a tiny part of religion. Thus everything in life is dominated by this religion. As such, Islam is a system. It is a socio-political, socio-religious, socio-economical, educational, legislative, judicial, and militaristic system garbed in religious terminology.
In the Hadith, Mohammed was quoted as saying, "The sons of Adam are accountable for all lies with the exception of those spoken to reconcile two men that are quarreling, for a man to appease his wife, and in war, because war necessitates deception."
The Muslims of Islamic states, and many within the USA, have the tradition of a worldview that divides humanity into two opposing halves. Dar al-Islam, House of Islam, is the zone where Islam rules. The other side is the war zone that is called, Dar el Harb, House of War. This worldview dictates that war will continue between these two sections of humanity until the supremacy of Islam is fully established throughout the earth.
So here we have a religion that has a world view of being at war with any not of the faith, and it's founder STATING that deception in war is not only accepted, but NECESSITATED by the conditions of war. The Moonbats would have you believe that the war is a spiritual, not a physical, one.
But what does the Koran say?
So when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters, wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambushÂ…. (Koran 9:5)
The only punishment of those that wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is that they should be murdered, or crucified, or their hands and their feet should be cut-off on opposite sides, or they should be imprisonedÂ…. (Koran 5:33)
Yep! Sure sounds "Spiritual" to me! The moonbats would say that there are violent passages in the Bible as well, and they would be correct. The DIFFERENCE is that, at least since the Reformation, Christians have been more secularized and take the Bible for allegory, in practice, if not in professed belief.
(and no don't try to point to the "Troubles" in Ireland as an example that I'm incorrect, those were always political/socioeconomic troubles; divided by religeous lines, not over religion itself)
Muslims, on the other hand, have never had a reformation of their own, (hard to have religious questioning in a culture where the very act of asking if there was a different interpretation can result in you being killed as an apostate!)and take the Koran as the literal truth and way of living in all spheres of human life.
It is not a religion that encourages dissent or new interpretation easily. In fact, should Islam achieve it's general goal of world domination, the three major sects would take to continuing the conflict between themselves until only the "One, TRUE Islam" would remain. They only work together in reasonable harmony today because they perceive each of the other sects as only misguided, but redeemable, and needed in the fight against the Infidel.
Within Islam there is the principle of "Al Takeyya." The term means, "prevention". This principle permits Muslims to lie at their discretion whenever they interpret that it is expedient for the influence of Islam or their personal protection and well-being. They justify lying by using the following verse as a springboard for expanded applications of Al Takeyya.
"Let not the believers take the disbelievers for friends rather than believers. And whoever does this has no connection with Allah unless it is done to guard (Takeyya) yourselves against them, guarding carefully. And Allah cautions you against His retribution. And to Allah is the eventual coming."(Koran 3:27)
Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible." (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745)
Note that Al-Ghazali is one of the most famous and respected Muslim theologians of all time.
In other words, it is permitted to allow the Infidel to appear to be your friend
(you can negotiate "peace" treaties)
until the time is right and the strength is sufficient to attack and destroy him.
This would seem to negate the validity of any treaty that a Muslim might make.
Yes, even in the the Western world, a "trust but verify" attitude should be taken regarding any treaties between disagreeing nations, but the Western world doesn't have the tradition of using treaties as an instrument in the furthurance of war. Never forget that this is not so in the Muslim world.
For those that still insist that Islam is a religion of Peace, and it's only a "few" extremists that are engaged in this war, I would ask you to take note of something.
In Islam, if a deed,action, or sometimes even a personal opinion, is deemed unacceptable to Islam, a "Fatwa", or judgement will be issued against the offender(s) by the Imam of the sect that considers the offense unacceptable. In many cases, it is a sentence of death to be carried out against the offender(s) by any true believer that has the opportunity to do so.
Name ONE Islamic religious authority to have made a Fatwa against any group that has carried out anti-Western terrorist acts. Make it easier, name the ONE Islamic authority that has issued a Fatwa against those that planned and helped carry out 9/11....Surely such an act would merit some sort of a ruling to distance it from Islam? Remember, under Islamic creed, it is permissable to lie to engender peace, if there is no other way...Still no Fatwa, they won't even go so far as to lie to shield Islam. Tacit approval at least there?
Rather, follow the old Roman adage that "If you wish Peace, prepare for War".
Being adequatly prepared for war has stopped more wars from occurring than all the feel good rhetoric about Harmony among Nations and the Brotherhood of Man has ever done. It's sad that it is the way of the world, but it is the reality.
Ignoring that fact is "sticking your head in the sand", and yes, that last is for you, Wanda.
Update: Never underestimate the power of the Internet! It seems that the Spanish Islamic Commission announced today that they were going to issue a Fatwa against Osama Bin Ladin and recommend that Spanish Imams condemn terrorism in sermons in their Mosques on Friday.
I wonder if they read me? LOL
I was bothered by one little addendem in the article:
The Commission has also drawn up a document designed to 'thank the Spanish people and the government for their attitude towards Muslims' since last March 11, in particular for not taking 'disproportionate' measures similar to those which the Sept 11 attacks sparked in the U.S.
I do not believe that we took "disproportionate measures" here. I have to wonder if this isn't a litle "diplomatic bone" to allay some of the heat that has come down on Muslims in Spain in the last two weeks? Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I can't help remembering that it is an Islamic tenant that:"When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible." I would think that giving the impression of being allied against terrorism would be a "permissible goal", even as they continued to engage in it. Also falling under the "self-protection" lying exception also allowed Muslims.
Take it with a grain of salt, but it's still a positive step, if it's done in sincerity.
Trust, but verify. Moniter as we go.
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