October 18, 2008

Question

An E-mail friend of mine sent me the following question that shows the disconnect of the average Liberal GFW, and I really would like to know the answer...how about it Karlo ?, Diane?, anyone?

One simple question:

"If you really believe that the U.S. is turning into a police state,
why do you want to deprive the people of the one tool that the
founding fathers provided for just that purpose, namely, resisting
tyranny?" (emp. mine- D)

Posted by: Delftsman3 at 01:23 PM | Comments (4) | Add Comment
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1 I assume you're taling about guns. I may be wrong about guns. Maybe they're good and we should all have them. Since there won't be any effective gun control, I suppose it doesn't much matter. At the same time, I don't believe for a second that guns will do anything against tyranny. It's no accident that Iraqis are using IEDs and suicide attacks against US troops in Iraq. Guns (and especially pistols) don't do very well against tanks and guided missiles. They're much better for holding up liquor stores than for fighting battles. Actually, the guns that are useful for fighting wars aren't the ones under dispute. These peripheral issues aside, we've had a Republican president for the last 8 years and a Republican Congress for much of that time and we've got the greatest expansion of government this country has probably ever seen and the greatest incursion on Constitutional rights that the country has ever witnessed except for perhaps during the Civil War period (a time which must be considered a bit exceptional). And you're for Palin and McCain (who wants to freeze everything but the military)?! When this country gives up its freedoms, it will be because it ran its economy into the ground supporting a military empire and hand-outs to billionaires. It won't be because it was missing the latest fancy missile system or because someone couldn't buy a pistol with bullets designed to pierce policemen's vests. Did you hear that 70 billion of the 700 billion bail-out has already gone to bonuses for CEOs etc. of bankrupt companies? And we're supposed to get riled because Obama wants to "spread the wealth around"? Personally, I'm sick of trickle-up theory and people telling me that Iraqi commandoes will soon be storming California beaches. The rightwing delusion requires many hours of staring intently at Fox News in order to be maintained. I evidently haven't spent enough time.

Posted by: Karlo at October 19, 2008 11:00 PM (d3ObA)

2 Wow. I've seldom seen so many loony left talking points crammed into such a small space ... Great point, Delfts. Keep them coming. These nutbags don't have a prayer. RWR www.rightwingrocker.com

Posted by: RightWingRocker at October 21, 2008 08:37 AM (YJ7rM)

3 Why do Americans tend to own firearms? Why is this "right to bear arms" actually included in their Constitution? Why do a minority of Americans violently and hatefully oppose this Constitutional right? First of all, let's realize something: simply owning (and carrying) a firearm does not mean that the person who owns / carries it is going to use it on everyone they meet. Gun "control" (it really means "abolishment") advocates are not afraid of the person who owns the gun. They are afraid of the gun itself. It is a phobia, plain and simple. Some gun "control" advocates have much more sinister motives: they are engaged in a "power over" move .... they want political power (or more political power) and realize that private ownership of firearms places the firearms owner on an equal level with the police and military. If they can outlaw firearms, then the -real- political power lies with those who run the police / military, not with the private citizens. And these kinds of "power over" games smell of a totalitarian mind-set. Call it Facism, call it Communism, call it Liberal Neo-Facist, call it what you will, it still stinks. When the so-called "Saturday night specials" (a demonizing name for inexpensive handguns) were banned, the poor of American cities could no longer afford self-protection, and thus have come under the power of the police; they have become beholden to the good graces (and personal opinions) of their local law enforcement and must keep them happy or face abandonment to the crime lords and gangs ..... and since the gangs have the weapons, the gangs are now in effective control of many poor neighborhoods in the USA. When the firearm is regarded as a -tool- and not as a magical emblem of power, those who own them tend to be careful and remain within the law. When firearms are regarded as a "macho" symbol; as a magical means of gaining manhood simply by owning one, they are inevitably misused. And when TRAINING in firearms safety and proper (and safe) handling is part of the child's growing years, the children tend to become law-abiding, good citizens where it applies to firearms. But whenever it is proposed that firearms safety training be offered in schools, the Liberals rise up en mass and squawk, against all evidence, that it will only contribute to the problem. Their opposition to these safety courses is better understood if you realize that it is to their advantage that firearms be misused. They WANT to ban firearms because they want MORE POWER, and every instance of a child, not trained in safety, who is killed or injured thru misuse of a firearm adds to their agenda. Guns don't cause crime, and criminals will not obey firearms laws. But the average citizen will, and THAT LEAVES THEM HELPLESS against the criminal. Mr. Liberal, is that what you want? Do you want such a rise in crime, at a time when violent crime in the USA is DROPPING, that you can "point with alarm" and pass even more laws to control the citizens? You see, the Bill of Rights, of which the Second Amendment is one, guarentees certain things to the citizens of the USA. But they all are dependent, when push comes to shove, on the Second Amendment. Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly .... ALL of them. With no Second Amendment, then the Bill of Rights effectively becomes null and void. There is no way to enforce it. Mr. Liberal, is THAT what you are after? I pray to God it is not so, but all history shows otherwise.

Posted by: Featherless Biped at October 21, 2008 04:46 PM (nIhAH)

4 Don't sweat Karlo the meme parsing left-bot. His views are of no consistent thought or meaningful substance. Did you hear that 70 billion of the 700 billion bail-out has already gone to bonuses for CEOs etc. of bankrupt companies? And we're supposed to get riled because Obama wants to "spread the wealth around"? Personally, I'm sick of trickle-up theory What you see here is his spinning mental maelstrom with no web-links to his blathering talking points. Hey 'K', where did ya' get dem figgers? Both B O and O'Biden have mentioned some whacked out trickle up economic principle recently and karlo thinks it's a Palin/McWho/Repug/Militaryindustrialcomplexneoconillumminati juggernaut that's to blame for it. What a tool. What a lemming, (one can hope) who will follow the rest of the left over the cliff of hopelessness and change, to give us a fighting chance in a world gone mad.

Posted by: Mike in Chi at October 26, 2008 11:52 PM (qkkvV)

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