MSM Effects
A lot of blogs decrying the bias of the MSM against anything American. Right wing bloggers especially delight in pointing the bias out; left wing bloggers say that, for the most part, ONLY Fox News is biased, and thats in an "anti-progressive" way, hence it's the bias we should be concerned about. They also point out that the European press is "much better".
The left side of the aisle is fond of accusing President Bush of "going it alone" and "alienating our EU allies". Now we have this report via Davids Mediankritik that has a survey that shows the German media is more critical of US policy than Al Jazira. In fact, they have an anti-US stance about 80% of the time. The survey shows similar albeit lower results in the French, Italian,British,and Spanish press.
So is it any wonder that public opinion in the EU has turned against the US?
When Arab Media is more "fair and balanced" than the EU MSM, there is definately something to be concerned about.
All too many people form their personal opinions from what they read and hear in the MSM, if that media is biased, it can become a situation of Orwellian Newspeak that is far removed from reality. In a nuclear age, this is extremely dangerous. Polititians respond to constituant pressures (at least in an election year), if the public is misinformed and not based in reality, those pressurres can lead to poor decision making, making the world a more dangerous place than it already is.
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Are you implying that the critical attitude of the German media is biased? I don't read German but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the German media was also highly critical of German politicians and German policies. Much can be said about U.S. media and how some outlets tend to run negative stories (most exciting events such as killings and such are by their very nature negative and alarmist). Even so, I find virtually no major U.S. news outlets providing media access to people who really challenge the status quo. Such people (Zinn and Chomsky come to mind) are kept under close wraps. I don't know why. For all the chatter about Ralph Nader being a wacko, he did get 5% of the Californian vote a few years back but you probably can't find a single station anywhere in California that gave him 5% of the air -time of the major candidates. Why not? He isn't a ranting kook. Whether you agree with his ideas or not, they are IDEAS put forth in a well-reasoned way and they are different. I guess what I'm saying is that the U.S. could use some alternative view points. Nothing could be better for U.S. democracy than a well-translated foreign news show broadcast on a major U.S. station watched by the average American. Why aren't we all watching Arab and German news every night?
Posted by: Karlo at January 31, 2005 09:21 PM (HoLw7)
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The Point was, Karlo, that the majority of the major media in the EU mostly airs only the POV of our opposition; to a greater extent than even the normal media outlets FOR the opposition. You see no irony there? And you wonder WHY public opinion in the EU is so against us?
Citing CHOMSKY as a commentator?!? Puhleeez! Even the leftist segments of our media know that he's an idiot, and they don't wish to have him embarrass their joint cause.
Posted by: delftsman3 at January 31, 2005 10:07 PM (h4ZzC)
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Whether or not you agree with Chomsky, he provides arguments with points and evidence. (His documentary Manufacturing Consent and his book on the Israeli conflict are good examples of this). There's some meat there to chew on. I have no problem with him at all. For that matter, if a conservative wants to appear in the media and actually discuss an issue in an educated manner, I'm all for it. (You'll notice on my blog that I gave a fairly good review to Goldberg's book Bias and can say that I actually read the whole thing). However, I don't see this happening. The U.S. news media is little more than a spoken form of Pro Wrestling.
Posted by: Karlo at January 31, 2005 11:42 PM (HoLw7)
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It is corporate funded . . . hence non-biased???
Posted by: Karlo at February 01, 2005 07:41 PM (HoLw7)
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Chomsy doesn't use evidence, he uses whatever conspiracy theory that matches his topic as "proof" "Everybody KNOWS" as if it were proven fact. His points are only valid if looked at from a Communist state view.
"It is corporate funded . . . hence non-biased???"
Nope, our media is DEFINITLY biased. The only wonder to me is that it's so heavily biased towards a big government Nanny state mentality.
You'd think that that would work against the corporations best interests... On the other hand there are plenty of NON-corporate media outlets to at least provide some alternate views.
Posted by: delftsman3 at February 01, 2005 08:38 PM (h4ZzC)
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"Chomsy doesn't use evidence."
You clearly haven't read anything by Chomsky. Probably more than any author who writes for the public at large, he uses extensive footnotes. His sources are generally very solid. When writing about Israel, for example, instead of relying on Palestinian sources, he uses many major Israeli media sources and statistics by well-known organizations. His work on bias in the media contains very convincing statistical data and sound reasoning and makes the Goldberg book on bias look like tabloid reporting (full of anecodotes and examples) in comparision.
Posted by: Karlo at February 02, 2005 02:08 PM (HoLw7)
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In other words, if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, snow them with an excess of BS.
I have read Chomsky. I find his arguments pedantic,circular and self-fulling.
Note the second part of your Goldberg statement:
(full of)examples. That is real world; Chumpsky cites his theory and then cherry picks to support the theory and not the facts.
Posted by: delftsman3 at February 05, 2005 05:34 PM (h4ZzC)
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In the academic world where arguments are held to a higher standard of proof, examples are only accepted if they're backed up by some other more objective data. A person can find examples for anything. Chomsky, on the hand, actually took a particular set of news events and reporting in the elite media (the New York Times) and did some numerical analysis that proved media bias. There's some empirical evidence offered that we can either accept or challenge. The Goldberg book, on the other hand, is full of personal anecdotes (a little bit like Fox news, Goldberg's favorite news outlet.)
Posted by: Karlo at February 07, 2005 02:19 PM (HoLw7)
The *spit* UN *spit*Diplomad has a great post up showing the Perfidy that is the *spit* UN *spit*, that august body that seems to specialize in gaining power/graft off of human misery all over the globe?
Tell me again just WHY we are still associated with this conglomeration of tin-pot dictators and self-serving bureaucrats?
Blaster"B" creator sentenced
Next to Spammers, those that deliberatly concoct and release viruses onto the internet are among the lowest form of life on Earth.
I'm happy to see that the courts are taking this issue seriously; I do believe that the Judge's reasoning was faulty though..young master Parson should have been given the maximum sentence; the argument that he had not had the "proper upbringing" and was not "properly supervised" is a load of feel-good, P.C. CRAP.
Mr. Parson knowingly and willfully commited an act that he couldn't help but know would hurt a lot of people, if that isn't a definition of a criminal intent, I don't know what is. Having given him a break on the prison term, I hope the Judge hits him with the largest restitution amount allowable by law. Only making the consequences far outweigh the benefits will stop this type of malicious crime.
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Islamic Fundementalism
Many on the Left claim that Terrorism is a result of US policies in the Mideast, some going so far to claim that US policies are fronts for policies formulated by the Iraeli government, but when you listen to what terrorists such as Musab Al-Zarqawi and Osama bin Ladin himself, have to say about the conflict between radical Islam and the US:
Blockquote>"We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong idiology" "Democracy is also based on the right to choose your religion, and that is against the rule of God"
and Osama bin Laden himself:
"Anyone who particpates in these (Iraqi) elections...has committed apostasy against Allah." "Those( that aid the elections) are apostates who should not be prayed over upon their deaths. They can not inherit, and they must not be inherited from after their deaths. Their wives are divorced from them, and they must not be buried in Muslim cemeteries".
The intellectual founder of the current radical Islamic movement, Sayyid Qutb, wrote in 1957:
In the world, there is ONLY ONE PARTY, THE PARTY OF ALLAH;ALL OF THE OTHERS ARE PARTIES OF SATAN AND REBELLION. Those who believe FIGHT IN THE CAUSE OF ALLAH;and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of (satan) the rebellion"
(emphasis mine)
Check out Memri.org and you can find any number of statements from Islamic organizations declaring that democracy is an "atheist" heresy, and that anyone participating in it is, Ipso Facto, an "infidel" and/or a "heretic".
Read the Queran to see what is expected to be done by the Faithful to to anyone who is considered to be a member of those hated groups.
Still believe that this is a fight against policies? Or is it something more akin to a war between two totally incompatible idiologies? A war that was brought home to us on our own shore on 9/11?
I believe the latter, because I take the enemy at their word when they come right out and state their agenda; nothing less than the eradication of every priciple I hold dear and replacing it with a tyranical theocracy.
The battleground at present is Iraq, but if you look at the increasing frequency and escalating manner of terrorist actions in Europe, it's obvious that the Islamist's ultimate goal is a world-wide Islamic State.
The citizens of Iraq have a choice to make on Sunday; between starting a (admittedly) long, painfull process towards some form of democratic self rule and a total theocracy ruled by outside Mullahs that brook no dissent from their rigid form of rule.
To those that say that "the US is imposing our will on only two states (Iraq and Afghanistan) and ignoring other theocratic regimes", I would point out that Iraq and Afghanistan are only the first step in our stradegy, with the end goal, that if a democratic rule can be established in those two states, the citizens of the other tyranies in the area will take it upon themselves to gain the same freedom for themselves, and not be forced to it from outside at great cost and blood to us.
OUR ultimate goal is nothing less than the democratization of the whole Middle East. Democracy NOT necessarily in the same form as ours, but in the manner suited to the people and culture of the area. The reason we wish this? Because history shows us that democratic states are much less likely to engage in war/terrorism than dictatorships and theocracies. Boiled down to it's simplest, it's proactive self defense.
And to those that claim Israel is an "aparteid state"....just tell me how it is that those arab citizens of Israel enjoy all the same rights, INCLUDING holding elective office as any other Israeli if it WERE such a state? There are Arab Muslim's ,freely elected, in the Knesset.
The ONLY distinction between Arab and Jewish citizens in Israel is that Arabs are not required to serve in the IDF, while Jewish citizens are required to serve for at least two years.
The EU Idiotarian disease is infective
I have always been proud of my Dutch heritage. The Dutch have long had a reputation for being the most tolerant society in europe, allowing for the most individual freedom possible, but then I saw this article via Acidman, and I can only conclude that the Idiocy that is the main product of the EU is infecting my beloved homeland.
Just by WHAT twisted logic could someone engaged in illegal activities take business deductions on the tools used in those activities?!?
I'm waiting for something similar to this happening in Kalifornia or Washington state. The way it's going, I may not have to wait long. In the meantime, I can only feel embarrassed for the country of my birth, I sincerly hope that Dutch common sense will reassert itself soon and put an end to lunacy such as this.
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You're right on about Washington State, imagine your refusing a fiscal audit of expenses, or your trying to pass off a Hawaiian Vacation as a business expense to the IRS. Washington State has refused to allow the state auditor to check the books for 12 successive years. Criminal activity is indeed rewarded through internal corruption, lack of accountability and downright fraud. The EU has nothing over Washington State.
Posted by: Jack at January 27, 2005 02:37 AM (1wg+E)
That A.C.L.U., What Jokers!What's wrong with this picture?
If you look closely at the picture above, you will note that all the Marines pictured are bowing their heads. That's because they're praying.
This incident took place at a recent ceremony honoring the birthday of the corps, and it has the ACLU up in arms. "These are federal employees," says Lucius Traveler, a spokesman for the ACLU, "on federal property and on federal time. For them to pray is clearly an establishment of religion, and we must nip this in the bud immediately."
When asked about the ACLU's charges, Colonel Jack Fessender, speaking for the Commandant of the Corps said (cleaned up a bit), "Screw the ACLU." GOD Bless Our Warriors, Send the ACLU to France.
Please send this to people you know so everyone will know how stupid the ACLU is Getting in trying ! to remove GOD from everything and every place in America. May God Bless America, One Nation Under GOD!
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When you claim that God blesses your bloodthirsty nation and your murderous, torturing troops, one begins to wonder whether your 'God' is Satanic.
Posted by: truth_doesn't_hurt at January 23, 2005 04:48 PM (mCYFQ)
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I whole heartedly agree there is nothing wrong with the picture above. In fact if ever a group of people needed prayer it would be those troops.
They need not only their own prayers but ours as well.
On a less agreeable note, I must tell you delftsman I am sadly disappointed to find that you have such a disparaging opinion of my blog and my opinions. I have respected you and not only appreciated but enjoyed your comments on my blog. I welcome your point of view. While I may not agree with you or be often swayed by you, I admire your willingness to stand up and defend your political stance. But, when you to other blogs and make negative (and borderline erroneous) comments about me, it leads me to believe that you do not return my respect. In fact it leads me to believe that you view me as a fool whom you tolerate only for entertainments value. Besides the fact that you invite trolls to my blog. How ungentlemanly of you. You take my southern hospitality and you shame me. I am wounded sir.
Posted by: wanda at January 23, 2005 05:39 PM (1ivbm)
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They can pray all they like, wherever they like. I have no problem with prayer, but they must also allow the other religions the same right. Also, they need to not try to force their religion(s) on others. That is what the schools and companies get in trouble for. You must have only one God and that God must be this God. I like the Native American Indians' ideas of Gods.
by the way, I really appreciate your comment section. I neglected to put in my E-mail address and since it's required, the software told me I needed to put it in, however, it kept my original comment so I didn't have to RE-TYPE it all. That was truly wonderful
Posted by: oldwhitelady at January 23, 2005 08:06 PM (wyE7H)
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I guarantee that no one was ordered to bow their heads. Anytime a chaplain prays at any type of event or ceremony he invites people to pray. There is no obligation or requirement to pray to any one particular god or to participate at all for that matter. Each member of the armed forces is entitled to exercise their own views.
On a second note, Wanda, I don't think Delfts intention was to draw trolls to your site, but to merely draw some of those with differing opinions. Delfts and I don't always see eye to eye either, but we will always have a good relationship as friends.
SlagleRock Out!
Posted by: SlagleRock at January 23, 2005 10:14 PM (fTGYN)
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Also, if you look closely at the picture it is obvious that there are those that are exercising their rights by not participating. There are several Marines that are simply looking straight ahead.
SlagleRock Out!
Posted by: SlagleRock at January 23, 2005 10:16 PM (fTGYN)
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As with any branch in the military not all are Christians, it is common to respect the beliefs of others whenever a prayer service is held. For non Christians there are non denominational chaplains available to serve their needs. Having attended nearly every denominational service the military has to offer, never have I heard an order to pray, it is always a request. If you ever find yourself paying last respects over poncho draped bodies of fallen comrades what difference does it make which denomination is saying the benediction. The ACLU would like to ban all prayer but until I see the words "In ACLU We Trust" as our national motto Fuck'em , I'll stick with "In God We Trust".
Posted by: Jack at January 24, 2005 06:11 AM (5jtiZ)
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Don't worry Wanda. From what I can tell Delftsman either had a troubled childhood, or isn't taking his medication. Maybe both.
Yours isn't the first blog he has come to and ridiculed. Combine that with his rabid racism, his contempt for anything and anyone non-American, his relgious fanaticism, continous support for militarism, and the number of times the word 'imperial' and 'empire' appear on this blog and I think you'll agree he's a bit of a headcase...
Posted by: anti-imperialist at January 24, 2005 03:14 PM (onRjP)
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The picture looks fine to me. Oh damn Delftsman, you've upset the moonbats.
Posted by: EC at January 24, 2005 03:46 PM (yYGP5)
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As someone formerly in the military, I can say that I always found it offensive that the U.S. government assumes that everyone's a Christian and has Christian prayers as part of virtually every military ceremony. If the prayer is voluntary, they should dismiss everyone who isn't a Christian from formation. Isn't it highly hypocritical that the same people who are up in arms about China not allowing religious organizations that don't register with the state are falling over themselves in glee when the U.S. government sanctions religious practice. And the Muslims in the Middle East are supposed to trust us to help them establish a secular democracy. What a joke!
Posted by: Karlo at January 24, 2005 05:41 PM (HoLw7)
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Combine that with his rabid racism, his contempt for anything and anyone non-American, his relgious fanaticism, continous support for militarism, and the number of times the word 'imperial' and 'empire' appear on this blog and I think you'll agree he's a bit of a headcase...
AI; Just WHERE do you find ANYTHING that could be termed "racist" in my blog? OR "religeous fanaticism"? I am not religeous in any of the common sort of definitions. I believe in a God, but I don't believe in a religion. I do believe that religion can be comforting to it's adherants, but it's a personal choice for every individual as to what form that might take, and woe to the person that tries to force me to his practice.
I am NOT against anything not American Yes I do decry actions in foreign nations when they warrent it, when those actions are held up by the moonbats as the right path to go here. I was not born American, I chose to become American, but I do hold great esteem for my heritage.
As to militarism, if that means that I applaud just action in defense of our national security, I gladly plead guilty. We may honestly disagree as to what is just or not.
As for the references to "Imperial" and "Empire", please take note of the rather large button prominantly displayed in my gutter for the Anti-Idiotarion Rottweiler, of which I am a proud "Loyal Citizen"....it's a tongue in cheek group, you twit. Although the humor might be lost on such as you.
I never ridicule other blogs, I have ridiculed certain forms of moonbat idiologies. Of which I don't consider of Wanda. We certainly honestly disagree on most things, but I can respect her for her honest opinion. And unlike Trolls, and some libs, I ALWAYS leave my real e-mail addy and URL; so they can respond directly to me should they wish to.
Posted by: delftsman3 at January 25, 2005 05:39 AM (hTrQW)
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Look out Knewt she's startin' to rear!
Go get 'em Delfts!!
I got your back and it'd be so far away they'd never even here the crack of the rifle, LOL
SlagleRock Out!
Posted by: SlagleRock at January 28, 2005 01:42 AM (fTGYN)
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This story is an internet hoax.
The picture, obviously, is genuine. However, the story is some ignorant idiotÂ’s effort to get people riled up over his own personal opinion of the ACLU.
1. An internet search for ‘Lucius Traveler,’ the alleged ACLU spokesman, and ‘Col. Jack Fessender,’ the alleged Marine Corps PAO, turns up nothing except the text of this story repeated on a dozen or so blogs. Even the US Marine Corps website has nothing about this story or anyone named Fessender. Nothing else at all on the internet. No press releases, no interviews. My guess is that these two individuals are fictitious, or they are the world’s worst spokesmen.
2. The ACLU website has no such press release. The ACLU website does have a statement saying that they have no knowledge of the events described in the e-mail, and that they do not employ nor have they ever employed an individual named Lucius Traveler. http://www.aclu.com/ReligiousLiberty/ReligiousLibertyMain.cfm
3. This e-mail is debunked on several websites which specialize in rumors and urban legends, including Snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/cemetery.asp); TruthorFiction.com (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/aclu-marines.htm); and breakthechain.org (http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/marinepray.html).
Posted by: Mike at October 23, 2005 12:07 AM (Bh4Rw)
EU BS
I was going to post about the EU and their latest example of munificence in the Airbus/Indonesia affair, but found that the Emperor had already done it better than I ever could.
It really makes me want to cry when the Moonbats on our shores hold out the EU as the model we should emulate. Lets see:
A. A community that uses coercion to force a tragedy ridden country to help support a state supported industry.
B. A community that makes it illegal to use force to defend one's home.
C. A community that makes it "hate speech" for a minister to preach from the pulpet according to the precepts of his religion.
D. A community that micromanages it's resident populations down to standardized regulations on it's playground equipment.
Yep! THATS the model I want to follow! (that was sarcasm btw, for any moonbats that might have strayed into here off from the "true path").
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It looks to me like the European Union is only trading one form of Communism for another by ursurping the national sovereignty of it's member nations.
Posted by: Jack at January 22, 2005 07:48 AM (kgRAo)
Tsunami relief
I keep hearing the Leftist's crying about how we need to bow down to the "superior wisdom" and greater international relief abilities of the UN in providing for the betterment of victoms of every stripe in the world.
I have asked this question a number of times of a Leftist bent reader when they happen to come on here, maybe this time, one will deign to provide an answer?; the question is simply this: Provide me the details of just ONE case where the UN was able to provide adequate and true relief to victoms of any sort in the world, whether victoms of a natural disaster,like Indonesia, or the victoms of a tyrannical regime, such as the genocide occuring in the Sudan, without the US being the major driving force, in terms of supplies,manpower, payor of the bills, etc.
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Charity is a noble human characteristic, I'm afraid it will be wasted on Indonesia, this is a country that never learned a thing from the events of 1968 that liberated them from Sukarno and installed Suharto. I nearly went to Jakarta in 1985 as an advisor, I studied their history, religeons, customs and language. I was working with Indonesian nationals and their cross training, as the company I worked for had a 10 year contract to supply U.S. "advisors" to a joint venture with Pertimina, the Indonesian Government's oil company. They would not perform manual labor, treated everyone as second class, couldn't do the required work themselves -preferring instead to "manage". Westerners(advisors) provided the knowledge and skills, laborers were lower cast Indonesians's and Pakistani's , the "ruling class" Indonesians managed (interferred), this created a nightmare to work under. Throw in Muslim customs, laws and taboos along with an anti-American sentiment, plus the fact that you had to hire personal bodyguards for protection and you can understand why I feel the way I do about them. If it weren't for their offshore oil and gas this country would still be locked into the stone-age, killing, roasting and eating their fellow islanders. It doesn't matter a whit what you give or do for them now, that baby you rescued today will be there 10, 15 or 20 years from now, imbued with hatred, ready willing and eagerly able to slit your throat.
Posted by: Jack at January 22, 2005 07:44 AM (kgRAo)
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All over the world is different, it will never be great in any way. Any bit of help and knowledge will help any place wether it is over seas or right next to you. Indonesia or any place that had experienced this serious accident did not ask for what had happened over the few months they couldnt of changed it if they wanted to or not. That is where they live and they might not want to leave and they might want to leave but can't for what ever reason. The way they run their country is what they want to do, wether it is a bad way to run it or a good way.If any one thinks it is that bad try to change it and help people by doing so. But, hey if you look at it... everyone has their own opinions and their own ways of dealing with things. Right?
Posted by: shelby at March 26, 2005 11:47 PM (Cs9o1)
Moonbattery, Higher Education Style
As most of my old readers know, I became a citizen of this country in 1972. It was not an easy process. There was an extensive testing of my knowledge of American history and the American form of government. I truly believe that most immigrants do know more about their adopted country and the truly unique form of government it posseses than the majority of it's native residents.
Yes, many of the fast held beliefs about our founding fathers are myths. These were normal men,with all the flaws and foibles of normal men; with one great exception: they were willing to risk everything on a dream, a dream that every man has the God given right to try to be the best that he could be, free of onerous governmental interference.
Was the original concepts of government envisioned by the founding fathers perfect? NO. have there been some improvements over time? Undoubtedly. I would contend that, in fact, that we are in a period of regression at the moment. And its people like the good professor responsible for this regression. In their zeal to point out the flaws in the early days of the Republic, they ignore the truly great concept that was put forward in 1776: that the individual man had rights that devolved just from being a man, that these rights were granted by God, and the state had no power to abridge these rights except insofar as the individual would allow, in order to form a workable society.
Individuals empowered the State, not the other way around; the rule of law ensured that all men and government was judged by the same standards, with no one held above the law. This was a truly revolutionary concept.
We haven't always lived up to the ideal, but we have come closer than any other society, and we still strive to meet the ideal. For a person charged with educating the next generation to tell a student that he is, in essence, mentally disturbed if he holds to the ideal, demonstrates the decline in the general state of education.
A free society requires an educated populace to survive, and if the perveyors(sic) of knowledge start considering the espousal of individual rights and freedoms as a mental illness, we will not survive for long.
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Eliminate tenure. There should be a generational break in the educational system, which specifies no immediate offspring of any teacher or professor shall become a teacher or professor, make that two generations.
Posted by: Jack at January 19, 2005 04:12 AM (STFN2)
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I would agree that the idea that we have rights that are not derived from a state is a very important idea. Of course if we spend too much time praising the state for giving us those rights, we seem to fall back into the old monarchical patterns of thinking. The way I look at it, it isn't the U.S. constitution or any other entity that "gives" me my right to free speech, freedom to go where I want, etc. I simply assume these rights. If a government or other forces want to take such rights away, I'll be hostile to those forces and attempt to undermine them. If we get too teary-eyed each time we look at the U.S. flag, we end up losing the essential point--the state doesn't "give" us anything, we take it.
Posted by: Karlo at January 19, 2005 08:14 PM (HoLw7)
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As for the article, I wasn't there so I don't know, but it's perfectly possible that the student simply had an axe to grind. And as for the comments (put into the prof's mouth) about the early U.S. being an unfair place, it was. That's a fact not an opinion. It was a great place if you were white and a damn scary place if you weren't. We can ignore this and make fun of people when they point it out, but it's not going to change things. Instead of getting teary-eyed and solemn when we think back on the "founding-fathers," we should recognize early U.S. history for what it was--history like any other history, full of the same forces that shaped history around the world. It's great that some people wanted to get rid of kings and aristocracy. It's too bad that they didn't get rid of slavery or the wanton mass-murder of native-Americans while they were at it. I hardly see how the early republic stood solidly up for the rights of all individuals. The historically facts are clear: they didn't.
Posted by: Karlo at January 19, 2005 08:22 PM (HoLw7)
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The professor in essence, told this young man that "if he believed that America was best; he must be mentally ill". I read the paper the young man wrote, and I think that, from a writing standpoint, it was poorly written, but I agree with his essential point.
Tell you what Karlo, I want you to write a college level paper in Dutch. the topic: "The American Left, vanguard of a new, just, America".
This young man should have been given a poor grade on the grammer and syntax, but this was an attack on his belief in the American ideal.
Let's see how YOU do in a foreign language on a subject you believe in.
Karlo, the very fact that you take it as a natural fact that you are imbued with those rights is a testimony to the vision of the founding fathers.
In NO other time or place was this attitude considered a "natural fact".
Did the FF do everything right? Of course not. Were there and are there inequities? That is undeniable. Is there any better system than ours on Earth? NO We have the best foundation to build on that any people have ever had.
To just decry the feet of clay that all men possess is self-defeating. "They didn't do A or B, so they were bad men" discounts the fact that they did the best they could with a revolutionary concept under the conditions and attitudes of the time, and we HAVE improved with time.
LEARN from the past, don't decry the present for it.
Posted by: delftsman3 at January 19, 2005 09:57 PM (+7VNs)
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Delfts ,
We are glad you are here, many of our country men are lax in civic knowledge and action,Look at the low turnout in most elections. While we are not perfect this country, It is still the best hope system while .
Cheers
V
Posted by: NeilV at January 21, 2005 12:02 AM (Dk8ax)
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"Tell you what Karlo, I want you to write a college level paper in Dutch." I might not be able to do it in Dutch but I have had to write papers in other languages (Japanese and Korean) and can sympathize with the difficulty. Whenever I hear statements like the one in the article saying that some professor somewhere told a student that he was "mentally ill," I have to wonder if there's some parallel universe somewhere that I've never been to. In every American college I've been in, a professor would get booted for making much more benign statements. Professors I know are extremely careful about every word they email or say lest they be brought up before some committee by some pissed off student. On the other hand, I know there are many students who don't do the work and so get upset when they see their scores. Judging from this, my assumption offhand would be that the student wasn't doing the work and that the statements about the student "being crazy" were lies told to incriminate the professor. Most profs aren't willing to jeopardize their entire career just because they disagree with a student's political orientation.
Posted by: Karlo at January 21, 2005 09:07 PM (JUy1p)
Islam in ActionTHIS is why we are fighting a war on terror. Islamic Fundementalists are not wanting to co-exist, no matter WHAT feel good bilge C.A.I.R. might try to put out.
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You are right. We fight because no matter what most of them are incapable of peaceful co-existence. It amazes me that the middle east has some of the wealthiest countries on the planet, yet most live in poverty or trapped in a time warp 200 years in the past.
SlagleRock Out!
Posted by: SlagleRock at January 17, 2005 10:06 PM (fTGYN)
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They are here to take, not to assimilate nor to participate, most are incapable of breaking the ties that hold them in the middle ages. If possible I would deport each and every one of them.
Posted by: Jack at January 19, 2005 04:07 AM (STFN2)
Religion of Peace?
I found this article on Barbara Stock's Republican and Proud site. It really puts it all in perspective.
a warning to the free world from an ex-Muslim
Important to read and share.
I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and breath with them. I am an insider.
I left Islam when I understood that Islam is a sick and evil religion. Following are the Islamic message to the West.
To the infidels of the West:
Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction.
We will fight the infidel to death.
Meanwhile American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
UNO will legitimize us.
CAIR will incubate us.
ACLU will empower us.
Western Universities will educate us.
Mosques will shelter us
OPEC will finance us
Hollywood will love us.
Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.
Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Indonesia and even from India to the US and to the other Western countries. They will go to the West for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our childrenÂ’s educations and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools.
We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad.
We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad. We will take the advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes, we will stab them in the back. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home. We will give subliminal messages to our children to uphold Islam at any cost. Our children in America will always care more about Islamic Country’s interest than US interest. We will teach our children Islamic supremacy from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel. Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US will be the next. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and now in the US. Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to Jihad when time comes. Who are we?We are the “sleeper cells”. We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad only. Everything else is secondary. At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world “Death of Muslim babies by infidels”. We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wildfire. “Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”, Keep your Nukes in your curio cabinets. Keep your aircraft carrier or hightech weaponery in the showcase. You can't use them against us because of your own higher moral standard. We will take the advantage of your higher moral standard and use it against you. We won’t hesitate to use our children as suicide bomber against you. Visualize the news flash all over the world, …Moslem mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the whole world is watching live. Hundreds of millions of Muslims all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield. Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad. West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our military force by natural means, by producing more babies. That is the way it is cheaper. You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us? On the camera: We will always say, “Islam is the religion of Peace.” We will say, “Jihad is actually inner Jihad.” Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible.Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadist by their talk by defending Islam.Using Western Legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely.We will increase in number. We will double again. You will be impressed when you meet a moderate Muslim personally. As your next-door neighbor, coworker, student, teacher, engineer, professionals you may even like us. You will find us well mannered, polite, humble that will make you say, “wow, Muslims are good and peaceful people”, But, we will stab you in your back when you are sleeping as we did on 911.There will be more 911 in Europe and in America. We will say, “We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved.” Muslims, CAIR, ISNA, MPAC and other international Islamic Organization will unite. We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt. The war of civilizations has just begun. We will recite Quran and say Allah-Hu-Akbar before beheading infidels, as we have been doing it. We will video tape those and send it to all infidels to watch. They will surrender - ISLAM means surrender. We will use your own values of kindness against you. You are destined to loose. Must be very depressing for you. Isn’t it? Allah-Hu-Akbar as we say just before beheading.
21st Century Islamic WarfareLet's see the effectiveness of Islamic warfare.
Muslims Vs. the West.
THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.
Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)
In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.
Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold
That is modern warfare. The West will loose.
Allah-Hu-Akbar.
Islam will rule the world. There is nothing you can do. Even if the per capita GDP of the world drops to half of its present level as a consequence of Islamic laws in place all over the world but still Islam will rule the word. From your point of view we bring to the world to the dark ages, so be it. But still Islam wins, West looses.Are you sure you want to play this game?
Jihad, ..Jihad...Jeeehaaad...
You are destined to loose.
Allah-hu-Akbar SOTT[Sight of the Truth] Saudi Arabia's $100 billion investment over the last 3 decades on over 60 thousands Madrassas and school all over the Islamic world is finally paying off. While the West was busy inventing medicine, increasing life expectancy, elevating human suffering, decoding human gene to find cure for Cancer, heart disease etc, launching space shuttle, inventing internet, working on new laws/theory for human rights, developing better economical models for a more prosperous world, while ACLU was gaining control over common sense, while American ingenuity was benefiting the rest of the world, we Muslims were busy producing over 200 million out of 1.4 billion, Walking, Talking, Non-Thinking, West-Hating, Pre-Programmed, Suicidal, Parasitic, Terrorist Robots. You can't win. The Genie is out of the bottle. We will use AmericanÂ’s kindness, fairness, compassion, freedom of speech and non-discriminatory policy against them. We will stab them in the back. What are you going to do? You are doomed. SOTT[Sight of the Truth] Tim--ex-Muslim
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Thanks Bert, excellent topic, I've known this for well over 35 years, after being sent into the Mojave Desert in 1967, but can't get my fellow Americans on board, I'm reactionary they say. I suppose the only time the realization will come is the instant before the sword severs the head from the body. Even then some will fail to see the enemy amongst us.
Posted by: Jack at January 15, 2005 03:40 PM (isqVH)
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Incredible piece. Mind if I direct a few folks to read it?
Posted by: EC at January 15, 2005 08:37 PM (yYGP5)
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Wow. These muslim fellers sound pretty darn evul. Is it still safe to go the mall to buy my 6-packs of Budweiser?
Posted by: Karlo at January 17, 2005 07:18 PM (HoLw7)
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For the time being it is Karlo...for how much longer depends on when the general populace wakes up to the danger that does exist.
The evil is patient and works in the shadows, abeted by those that dismiss it out of hand because it doesn't fit the view they want reality to have.
Why is it that the Left won't believe ANYTHING our government has to say, but will believe anything that an enemy says about us or about their own motives. The enemy isn't even being that secretive, you can get their true views by listening to what they say in the publications to their own followers and in the exhortations in their Mosques.
Posted by: delftsman3 at January 19, 2005 01:51 AM (6krEN)
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I'm not arguing that there are no bad people. Such people always exist. But the idea that there are hoards of evil demons at the gates is a bit much. Of course, if we serf the internet, we can find thousands of sites written by people who curse Americans and make all sorts of threats, but most of these people are simply all bark and no bite. The number of people who really are bent on destroying the West are extremely few. My concern is that we'll tear up the entire house trying to swat a fly. Since the U.S. is by far the strongest nation militarily, it seems much more likely that the country will fall from within than from without.
Posted by: Karlo at January 19, 2005 08:07 PM (HoLw7)
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Yes Karlo, the adds are greater that we WILL fall from within than from without. And its Your side of the aisle that will lead to that downfall. "the eternal price of freedom is vigilance" is more than a slogan, it's a fACT. Those dangers come from both within and outside our borders.
"The number of people who really are bent on destroying the West are extremely few."
You're incorrect in that view. Just read the socialistic leaning MSM publications all over the world and tell me that we aren't the focus of constant attack. They aren't "bent on destroying the Westeren world", but they are playing the willing dupes to those that are, simply because of an inablity to face reality as it is, and not as they wish it to be.
Posted by: delftsman3 at January 19, 2005 10:11 PM (+7VNs)
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I am sure that you can immagine the effects upon the Ummah of seeing their Profit accurately depicted engaged in pederasty, rape, pillage, plunder & extortion while issuing situational scripture to sanction his every whim!!! See them turning to the Qur'an & Hadith to disprove it, and finding confirmation instead. Watch millions apostasize and revolt against the slave masters....
Watch nothing happen if the petition to Mel Gibson continues to sit unnoticed at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/MGP05/petition.html
Please sign it and spread the word as widely as possible. Emailing the link and a link to the petition on your website could give the petition the momentum it needs to snowball.
Thank you for taking the time to consider this idea!!!
Posted by: Ben Powell at February 12, 2005 12:59 AM (Q486z)
SBC Yahoo DSL
As all the regulars know, Mamamontezz and I lost phone service and our DSL connection due to an unfortunate paucity of funds...we managed to get the bill paid and the phone was back on line the next day, and we were informed that it would be approximately a week untill the DSL connection would be back up and running. That week ends tomorrow...We called to see if it would be up and running as promised and were informed that it would be at least another two weeks.
You may have noticed the paucity of posts on both our blogs, and I'm afraid that that situation will continue for at least another two weeks...the dial-up connection only works on the old boat anchor back-up computer without rewiring the good fast E-Machine we usually use, and posting is just too frustrating with a connection speed of only 3200Baud.
I.T. types, just tell me WHY it takes so long to turn on an established account? A new account they get up and running in two days or less, and now it's going to take almost a month to get an account back on line after only a 6 day interuption? The phone line was disconnected a week before the DSL was, and it was up and running the day after the requisite funds were tendered, the two services are payed in one statement, so just WHY does it take so long?
Seems that service is second in todays business world....Billing is #1.
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Internet services have been nothing but a disappointment here in the U.S. We need to toss out all these companies and have the Koreans come in and run things for a while. They'd get rid of all these 1 year contracts and $70 monthly fees and insert some rationality into the market.
Posted by: Karlo at January 14, 2005 04:03 PM (ddf+l)
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Karlo has a point, too many "ISP"s are little more than a subscriber multiplexing their slice of the bandwidth and masquerading as a provider. I'm stuck in the neanderthal world of dial up too, my ISP offers DSL, I ask for it but they can't provide it, seems that if you are over 10,000 ft. from the provider they won't connect you up. Not much better than two bean cans connected by a taught string that you yell into from each end for communication. On weekends forget any semblance of reliability or stability either, they are out catching crawdads. Cable costs are too prohibitive at this homestead, so it's hurry-up and wait. Best wishes for a rapid re-connect and welcome back.
Posted by: Jack at January 14, 2005 04:39 PM (KQcmX)
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LAmbert ,Check your mail.I may have some help for your situation..
Cheers Neil
Posted by: NeilV at January 15, 2005 05:58 PM (lBdwX)
WMD"s Random thoughts
I keep hearing the same old tired meme from the Leftist Moonbat Brigades that there haven't been any WMD's found in Iraq, thus President Bush is a liar and probably Hitler incarnate.
The Moonbats keep throwing around numbers of upwards of 100,000+ Iraqis killed by the vicious American Armed Services, never mind that they can't cite any reliable sources for these numbers.
Some on the Left have gone so far as to equate the "insurgent's" in Iraq with the Minutemen of the Revolutionary War.
The Left claim that President Bush rushed to war without even trying to get the rest of the world on board, disregarding the facts that:
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re: "Oh, and there were no ties between Saddam and Bin Ladin? (don't forget Salmon Pak!)"
Alas, the left has worked very hard to dismiss Salmon Pak. Every time I bring it up on a board, some Moonbat comes along and shrugs it off. Never mind that it was IRAQIS who told us that al Qaeda were training there! That was what gave it such a ring of truth to me. Iraqis who worked there in clerical and services jobs said that they were forbidden to speak to al Qaeda. That rings SO true to me! After all, Saddam would want to support "the enemy of my enemy"... but wouldn't want his own people contaminated with their sick philosophies. That bit about not being allowed to speak to al Qaeda was what sold me!
Posted by: mamapajamas at January 02, 2005 07:32 AM (BXkU4)
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The left will do anything to hid the facts.They just cant abide by the fact that we are doing something decent in Iraq and not exploiting the place.Check out my fisk of Boobert Mcllend at Blog-gig Him and dumb yeah are my only posters lol Cheers and Happy New Years to you ,Mama,and Anna
Posted by: LCNEilV at January 02, 2005 01:28 PM (7Vwh0)
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Like a child's security blanket, the left can't leave their playbook behind when they venture out.
Posted by: Jack at January 02, 2005 07:48 PM (AcGPE)
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I have found that without a few rants or pre-fab complaints the left have nothing to talk about. Try as they may, theirs will never be a Grand Old Party.
SlagleRock Out!
Posted by: SlagleRock at January 03, 2005 12:37 AM (AtSju)
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Yeah but ya have to admit, they're fun to play with.
Posted by: Satan at January 05, 2005 04:49 PM (yYGP5)
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I'd like to say two things. First, the Bush administration has told so many lies leading up to the war that it has lost all credibility as a source. The best example is Powell's UN presentation. I've read accounts by UN inspectors and have personally met a UN inspector. Both say that Powell's account was not merely false--it was ludicrous. (One has to smile at the idea that Saddam was hiding a missile launcher the size of a football stadium and the UN inspectors--who could fly anywhere instantly without notification--somehow couldn't find it!) Secondly, regarding the Al Qaeda link: it's hard to understand why Saddam--the great secularist of the Islamic world--would cooperate with a group of radicals trying to create a pan-Islamic caliphate. I'm sure that at some point people's paths may have crossed. By the same token, I'm sure that US intelligence meets with all sorts of creeps all the time (Challabi--a convicted felon, for example, or Allawi--who our CIA says was a hitman).
Posted by: Karlo at January 05, 2005 10:01 PM (HoLw7)
